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| scottish scrutineer wrote: | Andy,
the Blue Book specifies two at each end, so a bridle can be used for towing.
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thanks a bunch
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| Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:30 pm |
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| scottish scrutineer wrote: | Andy,
the Blue Book specifies two at each end, so a bridle can be used for towing.
Alan,
what we checked complied with what the regulations required. There is a limit on what we can check on each car at pre-event Scrutineering. The new regs are much better, specify mountings and require two loops, so the load will be spread. |
renny, I have seen them on touring cars and seen them fail coming up the brae at the med centre (least said about the dafty who used his steel toecapped boot to act as a chock on the car concerned). Dont forget when a car is in the mud at various locations the stress on the towing gear will be far higher, whilst we try and push cars onto tarmac as the stresses of a few marshals pushing is a lot less than the landrover snatching. It is up to the car builder to make tow mountings solid as in the heat of battle we will find something solid to attach a strop to in order to effect recovery
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| Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:07 pm |
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| AK wrote: | Lowell - Fee and I used Rosemount Medical Centre - £60odd from memory.
They just wanted to see a copy of the form first to see how in depth it was |
yeah, but that is our registered GP....I'm not sure if they'd allow you an appt just as a one off
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| Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:52 pm |
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| Where are the recommended fixing details for the wire tow eyes? |
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| Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:12 am |
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There must be substantial towing eyes securely fixed to the main structure of the vehicle, front and rear, within the confines of the body to enable the vehicle to be moved. Cars of periods A to F and single seater racing cars are exempt from this requirement subject to a suitable towing point being clearly identified. Towing eyes must have a minimum internal diameter of 60mm. Towing eyes/towing points should be painted a contrasting bright colour (dayglo red, orange or yellow, marked with an arrow and the word “tow”. (b) The following configuration and specifications are strongly recommended: Vehicles to be equipped with two front and two rear towing eyes positioned equally either side of the longitudinal center line. The towing eyes to be made of steel wire rope of at least 6mm diameter with a 6x19 wire core. Each towing eye to have a breaking-strain of at least 2 tons and allow the passage of a cylinder with a diameter of 60mm. The towing eye to be fixed to a structural part of the chassis with a minimum of M10 (Grade 8. fixings, the inner part must be flexible in order for the towing eye to be retracted inside the bodywork profile. Towing eyes should be situated 25mm forward of the adjacent bodywork with clearance of 100mm above and below to enable recovery crews to attach straps and shackles. A “pull-cord” to be attached to the towing eye to enable the marshals to access it. The end attached to the chassis may be either ‘thimble’ or ‘open-loop’ style. .
so.... to metal that will take the weight of the car. Chassis point, orig tow locations etc
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| Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:32 am |
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| scotiamr2t wrote: | | Where are the recommended fixing details for the wire tow eyes? |
I've got a bolt through the chassis leg holding mine in |
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| Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:32 am |
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As Adam and Alan haver said, remember that the towing eyes will be under a significant loading when you are being recovered from the gravel (or mud). You need to have M10 fixings to a substantial part of the structure.
The new MSA Regulation has been adopted as mandatory for the SMRC Championships where we had regular failures of the fabric style towing points. Mini's BMWs and Fiestas. Recommended for Sports and Saloons and Classics.
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| Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:31 am |
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| Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:26 am |
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lets see what I could possible do...
Away all feb - nothing on anyway
Home for 2 weeks in March - Nothing
Away all April - :/
Home early May so could possible get lucky with
7th - Sunday - SMRC Rounds 3 & 4 - Knockhill Normal
14th - Sunday - SLS Round 2 - Knockhill Normal
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| Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:17 am |
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SMRC Dates seem different Mark,
Sun. 9th April All Classes
Sun. 7th May All Classes
Sat & Sun. 3rd/4th June All Classes plus Super Tourers, Junior Saloon Cars and National FormulaFord1600
Sun. 2nd July All Classes
Sun. 20th August All Classes - Reverse Direction
Sun. 10th September All Classes
Sun. 8th October All Classes
http://www.scottishmotorracingclub.co.uk/season-calendar.html
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| Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:59 am |
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| scottish scrutineer wrote: | I'm not certain that the SMRC event mid-July will happen. It clashes with the British GP which they were always keen to avoid, the Mach Stages Rally and it is in the middle of the holidays. I know I'm struggling for a Team that weekend, and I imagine there will be many others who can't be at Knockhill.
I'm waiting on an update from SMRC |
This is maybe why...
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| Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:01 am |
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Updated the main page
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