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Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:48 pm PostPost subject: Club Class 2009 changes
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2009 Technical Regulations and Class Structure – ‘Club Challenge’

Please note: these regulations are in addition to the existing 2008 ones

Technical Regulations (including N/A and F/I classes if applicable)


1. Interior
a) Full width OEM dashboard must remain and if any modification of the dashboard is required then this is allowed but only to the extent of allowing the cage tubing to pass through.
b) A minimum four point harness to be fitted and it must be FIA approved.
c) If the standard driver seat cannot accommodate a four point harness safely and securely then a FIA approved seat must be fitted.
d) If taking a passenger then the passenger seat must be fitted with a four point harness and the seat must fit the regulations as above.
e) The steering wheel can be replaced but must be fully rimmed.

2. Engines
Engines are free.

3. Fuel
a) No Nitrous Oxide.
b) No Methanol – random methanol testing will be carried out at events.
c) A means of us taking a fuel sample must be provided. An approved t-piece in the engine bay is recommended. Details on what certifies as an approved t-piece to follow.

4. Roll cages (full and rear)
Roll cages are recommended but are not compulsory and are subject to approval by the scrutineer who you must contact prior to fitting a cage.

7. Bodywork
a) If non standard doors are to be used then a full cage including door x bars must be fitted.
b) Front windscreens must remain OEM.



9. Driver Apparel
a) A minimum requirement is that an approved padded neck restraint is used but a HANS device is recommended. Details on what certifies an approved padded neck restraint to follow.
b) Helmet standards are as per 2008 but please note that BS6658/85 Type A will be withdrawn as of 01/01/2010, this does not apply to Type A/FR.
c) Helmet approval labels have risen to £1.40.



Classing Format and Structure


The reason behind the Club Challenge changes
It has become clear this year, more than previous years, that driver ability and vehicle preparation/build has increased at the higher end of Club Challenge. It has proved nigh on impossible for us to produce a separate class below Club Challenge at this stage as it would have to be determined on power outputs/finances and at this point in the growth of Time Attack it will prove too difficult to put this together and police, this is not to say we will not be looking to do this in the future and we would like to produce a class based on power and the changes adopted for 2009 will help us with this decision. To ensure a fair as playing field as possible competitors who have finished in the top section of Club Challenge in 2008 are now being moved into the new Club Pro Class allowing Club Challenge to become a far more balanced class. Competitors moving into Club Pro will be informed in the very near future.

We will be re introducing the FWD, RWD and 4WD as series classes for 2009.

A Pace/Safety car may be used in all sessions apart from warm up.

If a competitor within Club Challenge is running lap times close to Club Pro then the driver(s) will have to move up to the Club Pro Class, an explanation of this can be found below:

Why and when would a competitor get moved into Club Pro?
1. If a Club Challenge competitor comes within 5% of the winners time in Club Pro on 3 occasions then the competitor is automatically moved up into Club Pro at the very next event.
2. The 5% is taken from the Club Pro SuperBattle only.
3. If the SuperBattle is deemed wet then the 5% is void for that event.
4. The vehicle moving up must conform to all aspects of Club Pro spec.



How does this affect the moving competitor’s points and the Club Street/Club Pro classes by moving?
1. The moving competitor would move out of his position in the Club Challenge points table and the positions of the table would change as if that competitor had never entered the class.
2. The competitor moving into Club Pro fits into the points table by virtue of his lap times in previous Club Challenge events and the Club Pro points table moves accordingly as per 1. above.
3. Any trophy(ies) won by the competitor moving up or those gained by Club Pro competitors prior to the new competitor moving into Club Pro remain the property of the competitor(s)

Event Structure and Format

Competitors will for 2009 have to complete a minimum amount of timed laps in each session excluding the morning warm up., amount of laps tbc at this stage.

60/70 competitors will run in 2 groups with each group having the following track time:
1. Warm Up x 10min
2. Practice x 20min
3. Qualifying x 20min – after this the top 30/35 drivers will go through to the Club Challenge ‘SuperBattle’ Final. As yet the class breakdown has not been finalised but it will be along the lines of the 2008 Series with a percentage of N/A being included as well as FWD and RWD in consideration of lap times.
4. Club Street ‘SuperBattle’ Final x 10min

Club Challenge SuperBattle points as follows:
• Points to be awarded for 1st through to the final point scorer, points tally tbc
• 1 extra point for fastest overall lap of the day in each class
• Extra points awarded for completion of minimum laps in each session, excluding warm up
• Points awarded (as per SuperBattle) to each driver of a Mitsubishi, Subaru, Ford etc., going towards the end of year marque championship

Club Challenge SuperBattle trophies as follows:
• 1st, 2nd, 3rd FWD, RWD, AWD
• 1st, 2nd, 3rd N/A upto 3000cc
• 1st, 2nd, 3rd N/A over 3100cc



Nothing tooooooo major... Questions over our dash no doubt, and we'll need to get fee a neck restraint
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:41 pm PostPost subject:
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I agree about the Hans device.

60/70 cars split into 2 groups all in a 20 minute session makes for a busy track, especially on a short track like Knockhill or Brands Indy.

Add in 500-600 bhp cars on a quick lap, and others going slow looking for a bit of clear space, and you'll need your wits about you.
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Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:30 am PostPost subject:
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thats the same as last year....

its the 10min warm up and 10min superbattle that are a bit concerning.
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Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:40 am PostPost subject:
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This is something thats always interested me.

Things I would need would be FIA approved seats and harnesses, something thats on my shopping list anyways..

Will probably aim towards competing in 2010 once I have a bit more powa Smile

Edit: Just had a look at previous times for the club class and they vary from 59 second laps to 70+ second laps.

I dont know how accurate my camera is but watching imy footage back im getting 64 second laps so should be quite competative as i am..
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Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:24 am PostPost subject:
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There are good sponsorship deals for the series too....we got our harnesses from K-Sport last year for £50 each...FIA approved, 6pt
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Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:26 am PostPost subject:
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No methanol allowed I see though. What about E85?
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Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:04 pm PostPost subject:
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2008 club class results were a fair bit quicker than 59sec at KH. Fee did a 58 and didnt even get into the final. Club front runners were running about 54sec i think.

If your looking at 2007 results - they were done in the wet Neutral

A 64sec lap would have put you 2nd last in 2008. 40th and last was Dave Ellen in a Lexus, 65sec.

The club class should be more even in 2009, but it'll still be bloody quick Sad

E85 is allowed. Do you know if its much different to meth - mapping wise? There is a morrisons in Dundee that sells E85 but I think thats the closest for us. May be worth considering.
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The ZEN car and Duncan Graham both used E85 in 2008.

Here's a posting on 22B about it.
http://bbs.22b.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=000556
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2008 club class results were a fair bit quicker than 59sec at KH. Fee did a 58 and didnt even get into the final. Club front runners were running about 54sec i think.

If your looking at 2007 results - they were done in the wet Neutral

A 64sec lap would have put you 2nd last in 2008. 40th and last was Dave Ellen in a Lexus, 65sec.

The club class should be more even in 2009, but it'll still be bloody quick Sad

E85 is allowed. Do you know if its much different to meth - mapping wise? There is a morrisons in Dundee that sells E85 but I think thats the closest for us. May be worth considering.


Was most likely 2007 I was looking at then.. Embarassed

Will wait until 2010 then me thinks.. Very Happy
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Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:23 pm PostPost subject:
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does anybody know the sort of money it involves in doing this?
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Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:30 pm PostPost subject:
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entry fee's for club are about £1300

You need toyo (so best bet 888's) - price varies for size etc (say 500 though)

Fire Ext - £40
Neck Brace - £30
Race Suit - £300'ish
Helmet - whatever but must have right BS/ISO stamps etc
Gloves - £30
Boots - £70

then the rest is down to you...
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got brand new r888`s all round anyway! Is there not any other hidden chrages? what category would I get put in, cause my engines now a 1720cc turbo?
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Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:04 pm PostPost subject:
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'Club Class' no doubt unless you are 'pro' driver. High spec tuner back cars are in 'Club Pro' and tuner cars with pro drivers etc are in 'PRO'

There may be a small charge for the sticker pack... or I think thats just if you need more?! Cant remember... Its not much anyway £30 or something.

If you are wanting to take part this year you better get you details in Smile
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whens the closing date for it? 106 wont be finished anytime soon. probably wont be this year, anybody wana buy a 306turbo?!ha.
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I think most of the entrants will be getting finalised now. Register your interest for next year to get details for 2010 admission dates etc.
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